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Takom M-47M Iranian Army
dutik
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Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 10:28 PM UTC
Welcome to the odds and ends of modern armor modelling!

This will be a build of an Artesh tank, aka of the Iranian forces. Well, you know the history of the M-47 Patton. Production ended in Nov 1953, but it is still in service with the Artesh in the modernized M variant (aka with the M-60s powerpack). A truly dinosaur!

The other two known operators worldwide are Spain - using them as ARVs, and - Arnold Schwarzenegger himself

Back to topic:
The Takom kit builds easy. Nice styrene, clear instructions, good fit. Tracks are link and length, a proper jig is provided in the box. Very well!



There was only need for a little bit of putty at the rear hull insert:



Also a small gap below the fendders. Nothing to write home about:



Enjoy!
- dutik
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Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 11:42 PM UTC
Nice subject. Tuned in and atching
ttwells
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 12:27 AM UTC
I built both of their M-47s. I built the Pakistan version and Iranian version - had issues (my fault) with tracks both times. Pushed them together too much which created a shortened track length. Otherwise - awesome kit! Grabbed another to build another version!
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 02:57 AM UTC
I'm looking forward to seeing this kit being developed....post again soon!
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 05:14 AM UTC

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Arnold Schwarzenegger himself



Indeed, Arnie is a tanker! He drove an M-47 during his service in the Austrian Army in 1965. He bought one few years ago for crushing, well, all kinds of stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVs5kgvA_Ow
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 06:47 AM UTC

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Arnold Schwarzenegger himself



Indeed, Arnie is a tanker! He drove an M-47 during his service in the Austrian Army in 1965. He bought one few years ago for crushing, well, all kinds of stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVs5kgvA_Ow



cool but don't ask arnie what his dad during the war... apparently it's a touchy subject
kunjuro
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 06:52 AM UTC
Good start! I have an Italeri M447 in the stash but I haven't found the time or interest to build it. I built one already but man the tracks crumbled in my hands. Ruined an otherwise fun build which a few tiny hiccups (mostly fit).
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 08:13 PM UTC
Reportedly The Governator/s M47 was THE one he drove in the army.
GeraldOwens
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2019 - 03:16 AM UTC
Be advised that Takom's glacis plate is drastically wrong in shape. The dramatic bulge around the machine gun should blend smoothly into the adjacent area to the left. Takom renders it like a plateau. Sand down the left edges of the bulge, and add epoxy putty if necessary to blend it in. There are plenty of online photos to guide you, or refer to the Italeri kit, if you have one handy.
dutik
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2019 - 03:35 AM UTC
Well, I missed te front bulge problem, like most other online builders...

What makes a M-47M an Artesh M-47M?

First: The color. Takom gides you to a light drab by AK.
Second: The AA MG. A Dshk instead of the M2. To be added from the MiniArt soviet MG set.
Third: ERA. Yeeeeees, the Iranians upgraded the armor with russian ERA tiles. Good idea. Provided from a set made by Zebrano (iirc).



Added the ERA tiles to the model:



Where are the ERA tiles? - Along the stowage boxes only. REALLY? REALLY!

Very odd. Nothing around the glacis or the turret front. Nada. What are ERA tiles only along the stowage boxes good for? Feels like the Iranians did not understand the theory of ERA to full degree...

Well, I did as they did. Here we are. Enjoy.
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2019 - 09:28 PM UTC
Dutik,
Glad to see you building this kit. A freind of mine recently completed this kit and told me it was three links short of a full set of tracks.
He discovered it was less expensive to buy another kit than it was to buy aftermarket tracks.

Gaz
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Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 03:22 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Be advised that Takom's glacis plate is drastically wrong in shape. The dramatic bulge around the machine gun should blend smoothly into the adjacent area to the left. Takom renders it like a plateau. Sand down the left edges of the bulge, and add epoxy putty if necessary to blend it in. There are plenty of online photos to guide you, or refer to the Italeri kit, if you have one handy.



While I agree with you that the 'bulge' is grossly misrepresented by Takom, as a past AMPS judge, and current national IPMS judge, I would not dismiss the build outright if the bulge is left uncorrected. I've always taken into consideration manufacturing flaws in any kit. Pretty much all of them have at least one. Perhaps I would penalize the build a point or two. But that is just me. In the meantime, I've been in the process of correcting that mistake on the Takom kit over the last few months while concurrently building another three M47's (Testors).
dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 04:35 AM UTC
Thank you for your kind words. Thank you all for your contribution.

Small problem here: I am a few days ahead of the posts with the real build; due to the lag during wheatering (drying time of each filter, oils and so on). So it would have been neccessary to strip the paintjob to redo the front bulge. Not a good option. Honestly, I am building for joy, not for the Nationals (but I try to avoid known snags, in general).

Here we are - primary color applied:



Also painting the wheels:



BTW, the last post shows that I used the wrong muzzle brake. Have to cut it off and to use another one...

Enjoy!
- dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 02:30 PM UTC
I had a similar issue with "not enough links" for my M-47. Contacted Takom for two links, and they sent a complete track link sprue! And at no cost (your mileage may differ).

My build will be as a gate guardian currently on display. Data plate on the rear hull plate shows it as a Spanish rebuild.
ptruhe
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 01:52 AM UTC
Strange on the track links. I built the G version and no issue with the number of tracks.
dutik
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 05:33 AM UTC
We shall see about the tracks...

Added an overspray of a lighter base color, then painted the brown blotches. The real ones were crudly handpainted with wide brushes, so I tried to replicate this look at the model. Actually I used no brown, but a brown olive color that matches the effect well. Finally I wetsanded all blotches with 6000 grid sanding paper. Then added filters. Greenish, sand, oranges, browns.





Next step: Chipping.

Enjoy
- dutik
dutik
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 - 09:14 AM UTC
Added chipping and scratches. Actual photos show a lot of chipping at the toolboxes below the turret. Sldo added chipping around the engine hatches ant at the turret roof.





Next step: Wheatering with oils.

Enjoy
- dutik
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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 - 01:23 PM UTC
Really loving this build.Any build that does involve the Islamic Republic of Iran's military.I will be following because this is to great of a build to miss.
ptruhe
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2019 - 04:50 AM UTC
I like the camo scheme. Waiting to see more of this build.

This looks like they have rigged up a security camera on the turret.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cEQSyl2fVr8/TbC4reaIkjI/AAAAAAAAA4w/1NrFl7chQwo/s1600/X00841259860.jpg
dutik
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Posted: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - 11:55 PM UTC
Oil colors/fading done:









Now I am adding a black wash to the engine vents, not to forgot the rear ones, and some more oils to the lower hull. This will take some more days to dry thoroughly.

Lost a bit of paint below the turret bustle, where the turpentinoid pooled. Still thinking about how to handle this. Keep it as is and simply add some metallig pigmenets - "worn off", or add some fresh paint - "repainted by the crew". We shall see.

Enjoy
- dutik
dutik
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Posted: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - 11:57 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I like the camo scheme. Waiting to see more of this build.

This looks like they have rigged up a security camera on the turret.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cEQSyl2fVr8/TbC4reaIkjI/AAAAAAAAA4w/1NrFl7chQwo/s1600/X00841259860.jpg



Thank you, I am aware of this "modernisation". Well, this is sooo crude and also not present at other M-47Ms from 2011 that I will leave it off completly. It is just too ugly, even for a tank.

Regards
- dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 - 09:33 AM UTC
great job on the paint and the build ,I like it .
dutik
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2019 - 07:39 AM UTC
Ready with fading all around. Close ups:






And the hull side:



Here I lost some paint during wheatering:



Should I patch up (crude paintjob by crew) or leave it as is (worn off luggage bin)?

Now I am adding pastels and pigments for a dusty Iranian half-desert look.

Regards
- dutik

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2019 - 07:34 AM UTC
Follow this link:

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/1980-iran-iraq?mediatype=photography&phrase=1980%20iran%20iraq&sort=mostpopular#license

It will show at least two Iranian M47's captured by the Iraqis.
dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 08:22 AM UTC
@vettejack

Thank you for the link. Blast from the past for my build, but very interesting.

...

Added pigments to the lower hull:



Well, that was not intended. Had a happy accident with the pigment fixer. Tried to apply it from the sides with a wet brush, got a lot of edges instead of an even finish. OK, Bob Ross applies: Look, there were puddles at the training ground!

Regards
- dutik