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Andrey Firstov: Surviving T-34 Tanks in Israel
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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2018 - 09:52 PM UTC

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I merely meant that anything salvaged from a battlefield after being knocked out hardly survived; it was merely recovered and put to some other use. And no, I haven't had the chance to look through the book, but based on what Darren said I felt it was worth mentioning.

Hello Frank, not all the tanks featured in the book were knocked out in battle. Copies of the book are still available for purchase and you are welcome to pick one up.

Best regards,
Andrey.
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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2018 - 09:35 AM UTC

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Touchy aren't we Jon? I merely meant that anything salvaged from a battlefield after being knocked out hardly survived; it was merely recovered and put to some other use. And no, I haven't had the chance to look through the book, but based on what Darren said I felt it was worth mentioning.



I'm not being touchy at all. It's one thing to criticise a book for poor writing, poor translations, poor quality photographs, inaccurate information, etc. That's relevant and acceptable. But it's another thing to criticise a book simply for its title when the title is not incorrect and clearly states what the book is about. Am I bias having written a few books? Probably, but unfair criticism is still unfair criticism and until you've written a book yourself, you may not understand.
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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2018 - 07:36 AM UTC
Gents there is no need to get heated as it is just a difference of opinion on the subject. I do tend towards somewhere in the middle having read the book and both statements have value.
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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2018 - 07:19 AM UTC
Touchy aren't we Jon? I merely meant that anything salvaged from a battlefield after being knocked out hardly survived; it was merely recovered and put to some other use. And no, I haven't had the chance to look through the book, but based on what Darren said I felt it was worth mentioning.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 01:56 AM UTC

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As well, it probably should have been entitled "Remaining T-34 Tanks in Isreal" as I doubt that any actually survived their last engagement.



Really? Have you purchased the book? If you look at the title it clearly states "Pillboxs Monuments Museum Exhibits" These are all clearly "surviving" tanks. Many of the pillbox tanks are still in their original location so these are "surviving", the museum exhibits are all captured vehicles so they are "surviving", etc. If you believe you can do better, I suggest you write a book as well.

And yes, I do have this book.
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Posted: Monday, October 08, 2018 - 11:22 AM UTC
As well, it probably should have been entitled "Remaining T-34 Tanks in Isreal" as I doubt that any actually survived their last engagement.
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Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 12:24 PM UTC
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this book reviewed a few months back? Either way an interesting subject.
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Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 06:41 AM UTC


Darren Baker takes a look at a book titled ''Surviving T-34 Tanks in Israel - Pillbox Tanks - Monuments Museum Exhibits'' from Andrey Firstov.

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